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1a. Re: Artemis and Kali From: Blackbird 2. This Week on Dreamland: Crop Circles, the Greatest Mystery From: Blackbird 3. Astrological Musings: Libra Full Moon, April 17 2011: A time for bal From: blackbird View All Topics Create New Topic
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RE: ARTEMIS AND KALI
POSTED BY: "BLACKBIRD" BLACKBIRD 61@YAHOO.COM BLACKBIRD 61
Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:22 am (PDT)
Your torch flames,
heavens four quarters,
spreads splendid light in the dark,
those warrior women
like a single thread
come forth from beyond the river
do common work
in devotion to you.
Whose hands sear them with purifying fire.
From the Exaltation of Innana,
- Enheduanna-
Sumerian Priestess, and first known poet in the world.
I really loved what you have to say in this post for a couple reasons,
1. Because as I have mentioned before I feel strongly that the Amazon's
were real, that the Textual evidence for their existence is found in the
poem above, written by Enheduanna at the precious moment in time, at the
cusp of the transition from pre-History and History, and the rise of the
Patriarchy; I believe when Enheduanna says, "Those Warrior Women" she is
describing women she herself has seen, and she has no doubt her audience
has as well...." Artemis is not like Ares a brutal warrior or Athena
the War General but more like a huntress/warrior. She battles to defend
herself and nature"; this speaks very much to the vision of the Women of
Anar, that shapes and informs my own fiction; and in which the Archers
are often very important supporting characters.
"She battles to defend herself and nature not for power, glory,
recognition, money or for the lust of blood and death, Artemis fights
cause she has too. Many women who are breaking the bonds that have
repressed them for so long do just that...they fight because they have
too...oh it may not be with just weapons or brutal force..it could be
with letters, picket signs are just saying "NO!" Artemis is the
protectress of girls, women and nature as well as wild animals..."
This too was very encouraging for me, when I was a young man in college
in late 70's it was really at a high point of the Feminist Revolution,
woman were asserting themselves as professors, and assistant professors;
which was a much newer thing than I could have imagined, having always
had woman teachers in grammar and high school, it did not occur to me
how new this was to University; but years later reading Pat Irelands
Biography I came to find out she was the first woman admitted to her law
school; in the early 70's
Anyhow,
It seems to me Women have been in retreat for some time; (and I know I
disagree with Gaia here on this) but just the same, as Pagans women have
retreated from the revolutionary positions of my Youth; be the subject
the Burning, the Matriarchy, Even Magick; there has been a retreat; and
thinking about that retreat, I sense it is part of a more general
retreat.
I think if one had tried to explain, "Flirty Girl Fitness" or Girls Gone
Wild Video's to Gloria Steinhem or Adrea Dworkin in the early 70's their
heads might have exploded; not that they are made, that's as old as the
hills, but how a great many woman have embraced them, are absolutely
thrilled to appear on GGW; and it was after all two sisters who came up
with the idea of pole dancing you way to fitness. I know I'm not alone
in this opinion because my wife has a very good book called Female
chauvinist pigs that explores it in some depth.
And dont get me wrong,
As a Man I certainly dont want to fly back to the 1950's; but I think we
have swung from one extreme to the other, no? and I dont think this is
off topic, because I do think ones Paganism is intimately tied to ones
intimate life, no?
In the Arena of Politics, Choice is under serious attack; and I know
some members will likely be staunchly pro-life in any group this size;
but I have to admit after very long reflection (10 years at least) I had
to come to the conclusion; without reproductive rights, a woman cannot
truly aspire to equal rights; she will always be subjected to the threat
that her life, her plans, her dreams will be trumped by the demands of
an unwanted pregnancy; and while one can argue... "well she can always
lead a life of abstinence." No, we are very sexual creatures we humans,
it is not natural for any adult to live the life of a monk; and it has
not worked out well for the Catholic Clergy to try to impose that
unnatural lifestyle on its members.
That Idea is just another misconception of the Patriarchy, that we can
all be reasonable, rational little Apollo's; Celebrating the Glory of
the Sun 24/7 and ignoring the moon; But the Moon will have her Say, and
for those who deny her; that say can encompass some considerable wrath;
just ask Elliot Spitzer. Things did not go so well for him, when the
dark side of his moon, was pushed into the light of day.
Anyhow I found your very positive proFeminist statement most welcome.
I tend to do my best pathworking through the Vehicle or Story telling,
this story makes no claim to be historically factual; but it does touch
on those Warrior Women;
The Dancers of Ulmas
Brightest Blessings, BB.
In Witch Essentials@yahoogroups.com, Kalimir
wrote:
I see more and more that many women including Dianics are identifing
with Artemis/Dianna (Roman Diana) because she is not a mother but a
sister. She
does not give birth as she nurtures and lives with nature. Many call
Artemis
sister. This gives women a sense of power which they know they have.
Artemis is the goddess of the forrests and was the goddess of the past
mighty Amazonian women. Artemis is not like Ares a brutal warrior or
Athena the War General but more like a huntress/warrior. She battles to
defend herself and nature not for power, glory, recognition, money or
for the lust of blood and death, Artemis fights cause she has too. Many
women who are breaking the bonds that have repressed them for so long do
just that...they fight because they have too...oh it may not be with
just weapons or brutal force..it could be with letters, picket signs are
just saying "NO!" Artemis is the protectress of girls, women and nature
as well as wild animals. Regardless of being the goddess of Amazon women
she had
temples in parts of Greece. So we can see how many lesbian witches see
her as a great source of power and
inspiration.The Amazon women were a fierce bunch and were women only
according to Greek
myth. They weregreat warriors, They bowed to no man even during the
patriarcal
takeover.More and more I see Kali as being viewed as an "Amazon"
goddess. She was
originally more on the outskirts of society well pretty much. And now
she has become a symbol of matriarcal power and feminist movement. Like
Artemis, Kali will do as She pleases. She will never bow down or become
the little wifey-poo obeying her husbands every whim. Yet there are many
differences between Kali and Artemis. Another thing to considder is that
the worship of Kali was not quieted down nor subbdued as the worship of
Artemis was. Artemis' temples were destroyed or shut down, not so of
Kali. But still there are many diffrences.
For many feminist pagans the Dark Maiden and Dark Mothers and Dark Cones
like Kali, Hecate, Artemis, Cerridwyn, Morrigan, Lilith, Pele, Baba
Yaga, Oya, Sekhmet, etc As i said in my webpage The Dark Mother and THe
Crone "Dark" is not necessarily evil. LIke Sarisvati, Kwan Yin, Losna,
Lakshmi, Sita would not be of the Dark Goddesses. I love Kwan Yin even
though she is not "Dark". See the Dark Goddesses are loving but they
dont continue to coddle, nor
do they forgive time and time again they have no problem taking the
spiritual two by four and whacking one on the head. They are
independent, deal with war, deal with the dead, the destructive side of
nature, hard lessons, they are shocking, do what they want, and yet they
are also loving and beutiful, merciful, terrifying as well as beautiful
to behold. I see as time goes on and as women are finding equality not
only in
the job industry, but amoung their peers, home, and socially and the
more
that ancient ways are being more revealed or revived the Goddess
especially goddesses like Kali, Hecate, Durga, Pele, Sekhmet are
becomming more and more famous, loved and worshipped again. Even of the
rituals to many of these wonderful goddesses have been forgotten they
are being invented.
ok i just wrote as i went on
written by Kalimir
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THIS WEEK ON DREAMLAND: CROP CIRCLES, THE GREATEST MYSTERY
POSTED BY: "BLACKBIRD" BLACKBIRD 61@YAHOO.COM BLACKBIRD 61
Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:31 pm (PDT)
Hi All,
This week on Dreamland:
Michael Glickman: Crop Circles, the Greatest Mystery
Two weeks ago, Andrew Collins told us that all crop formations are made
by skilled and secretive human artists. This week, Michael Glickman says
that the opposite is true: that virtually none of them are hoaxes.
In this interview with Whitley Strieber, Michael shares his years of
research with us, explaining how there are really two crop circle
phenomena, one that celebrates the astonishing and inexplicable
formations, and another, darker phenomenon that has a very different
agenda.
He and Whitley also talk about the two formations, the Chilbolton
"Aricibo Reply" formation and the Crabwood "Disk" formation that are
completely different in the way they communicate from all the others.
But why are they so different, and what was the Crabwood formation
really intended to say with its famous message, "Beware the bearers of
false gifts and their broken promises. Much pain but still time. We
oppose deception."
Who was this message intended to reach? Why was it sent in this strange
way? Michael has some remarkable answers
.
If find it a little unfortunate that I did not post a link to Andrew
Collin's interview, because I believe Andrew is a much more serious
researcher; and as his colleague Collin Andrews (Crop Circles signs of
Contact) demonstrated a few years ago using low light camera's and such;
up to 90% of present day circles are man made; vandalism or artwork they
are man made, and I personally find this Tragically short sighted;
Dr Levengood's work demonstrates that there are (or at least have been)
truly anomalous circles, and as such they represent at least the
possibility of genuine communications from an absolutely non-human
intelligence(s); and those potential messages are being drowned out in a
swamp of man made circles; so even science could be persuaded to look at
the phenom; the message is all but unrecoverable in a sea of immature
hands shouting, "Look here, See ME!"
I wanna throw up.
Still the season is nearly upon us, and there will almost certainly be
some anomalous formations and one can hope against hope we find some why
to sift the wheat from all that chaff. Blessings, BB.
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ASTROLOGICAL MUSINGS: LIBRA FULL MOON, APRIL 17 2011: A TIME FOR BAL
POSTED BY: "BLACKBIRD" BLACKBIRD 61@YAHOO.COM BLACKBIRD 61
Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:36 pm (PDT)
On Sat, 4/16/11, Astrological Musings wrote:
Beliefnet: Astrological Musings
Libra Full Moon, April 17 2011: A time for balance
Posted: 16 Apr 2011 05:05 AM PDT
The time of the Full Moon, when the Sun in the sky is exactly opposite the Moon from our vantage point on earth, is always a time for balance. The Sun is our conscious Self - our goals, our visions, our ideas that combine to create our lives. The Moon illustrates our instincts and...
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All other Cups
Have their Source in Me.
The Goddess Innana.
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